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Jun
30
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Was there a Dragon banner of the English?

yes

Was in White, Golden or is there just not enough evidence?

yes
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Was there a Dragon banner of the English?

no

Was in White, Golden or is there just not enough evidence?

no
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Mar
12
Jessica

Was there a Dragon banner of the English?

no it was not

Was in White, Golden or is there just not enough evidence?

none
yar.. English dragon is much difference form Asia Dragon. it looks stronger and shorter. i thinks all dragon is just a story. however, your site is good.
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Dec
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Nov
10
Ingy

Was there a Dragon banner of the English?

of the Anglo-Saxons who became the English, yes.

Was in White, Golden or is there just not enough evidence?

an off White, an attempt at white, not Gold,  as they couldn't produce White back then.
The Dragon on the Norman shield is clearly  not white it is a creamy colour, even Stevie Wonder could see this, so they clearly could not produce White perfectly.
The English have revived the White Dragon flag of the Anglo-Saxons/English as the White dragon symbol of the indigenous English wether you like it or not.
I am also concerend at your agenda, it is only a flag and it concerns the English history and identity which is already under attack hugely from the authorities and media etc etc and hwere we have one of our own showing his PC self hatred side it seems, if he is English? though he could be of Norman stock, a Norman wannabe, Norman revisionist?  Norman = the invaders - the enemy.

Replied on: 12:46pm 11-10-2008
Ingy, This is pathetic. My view disagrees with yours, so I'm a 'PC Norman revisionist'. For gods sake all the other Eng Nats who've visited this site, bar one miserable little Welsh Labour supporter have agreed and appreciated my research. Even Octha below...who was very hard to please.

If this is your attitude to those who disagree with you I can see why they threw you off the CoSG website originally.
Oct
21
Octha

Was there a Dragon banner of the English?

Yes there was.

Was in White, Golden or is there just not enough evidence?

Probably both

The early English were not a very literate people. Therefore much of what has been passed down is word of mouth and now we are strcuturing our thoughts at a time when unity is required. Therefore I take back what I said about Ed Woods. Pity he didn't make the Somerset Dragon a lighter colour. But it still is a Germanic Dragon noe the less. So well done.

This site has got alot better. And is helping like other sites to strcuture our thought on our ethnicity. I have e mailed www.englandandenglishhistory.com and they are looking at re-writing their article on the White Dragon and I have said that they should include a link to this site.

Well done Mr White :-)
Jul
21
E Woods
Hello,
I was just reading the Cross St George Forum and came across a defamatory reference to myself dating from Sep 09, 2007. I would like to point out that none of what Octha said on the thread 'Celtic' Wesses / Cumbria / Northumberland !! about me is true. I 'm not trying anywhere on my website to convince the people of Somerset they are Celts or a nation of some sort. The Celtic Devon business is not my creation, I was commenting on it, and I don't see what that has got to do with the fyrd in Alfred's day. Devonians would've probably been a mixture of the two peoples then. In fact I specifically state that the Celtic Devon people are not nationalists and class themselves as English. The flag is not Welsh, it is based on the Wessex Wyvern and no-where in my website do I claim that Wessex never existed, I've no idea where Octha got that rubbish from, my argument is against the Wessex movement who want to carve up England.
I'd be obliged if you could pass that on to Octha.

By the way I am not a "self-loathing Celtophile" and I fully appreciate the importance of the West Saxons, kindly don't take what somebody else says about me for granted.

Regards,

E J Woods
Jun
9
Paul

Was there a Dragon banner of the English?

Yes

Was in White, Golden or is there just not enough evidence?

The tapestry depicts various colours so cannot be certain.
An excellent website - well done - that looks at all the evidence. There is no doubt that the Anglo-Saxons used dragon symbols, it appears on the Sutton Hoo helmet, other artifacts and the Bayeax tapestry. The Germanic poem Beowulf is also about dragons. The only debate is the colour but does it matter? I quite like the idea of the white dragon on red flag as they are the colours of our nation and the dragon is more of an English symbol than the St. George's Cross. St. George wasn't even English. If you want an English patron saint it should be St. Edmund, but then the original English were not Christian they were Pagan. As I'm not religious I feel at ease with adopting the white dragon flag.
May
20
Me again

Was there a Dragon banner of the English?

Of course not

Was in White, Golden or is there just not enough evidence?

It didn't exist
Is this site still going... I thought this dragon stuff was slain long ago... still no evidence… we can trace banners/flags/emblems etc. all the way back to the Romans. St. Augustine came with some, the ancient Northumbrian Kings had them, King Arthur etc. Bede records their use as do the other chroniclers – even the Anglo-Saxon chronicles. But never a white dragon… speaks for itself!
Replied on: 12:17am 05-21-2008
You strange person!
I'd pretty much forgotten about you!

You're funny.

Stay in touch now.
Mar
22
Thomas Smith
This site is damn good! i have a flagpole and i intend to buy this white dragon sir!! well done! good to see there are still some patriotic sons of England here! well done!
Oct
29
Hereward the wake

Was there a Dragon banner of the English?

Yes of course! It's on the Bayeux tapesty you anti Angle-ish muppets!
The English dragon is pure and white with a bit of red thrown in. The latter representing the deliberately spilt blood of the anti English dirt!
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Aug
26
Stevie

Was there a Dragon banner of the English?

Yes - its nature and colour would have varied - now taken as White

Was in White, Golden or is there just not enough evidence?

Not a great deal of evidence - but mots now take it as White - see poem below!
SAXON WAR SONG

by Sir Walter Scott ( 1771-1832 )

Whet the bright steel,
Sons of the White Dragon!
Kindle the torch,
Daughter of Hengist!
The steel glimmers not for the carving of the banquet,
It is hard, broad and sharp pointed;
The torch goeth not to the bridal chamber,
It steams and glitters blue with sulpher.
Whet the steel, the raven croaks!
Light the torch, Zernebrock is yelling!
Whet the steel, sons of the Dragon!
Kindle the torch, daughter of Hengist!

The black clouds are low over the thane’s castle:
The eagle screams-he rides on their bosom.
Scream not, grey rider of the sable cloud,
Thy banquet is prepared!
The maidens of Valhalla look forth,
The race of Hengist will send them guests.
Shake your black tresses, maidens of Valhalla!
And strike your loud timbrels for joy!
Many a haughty step bends to your halls,
Many a helmed head.



Dark sits the evening upon the thane’s castle,
The black clouds gather round;
Soon shall they be red as the blood of the valiant!
The destroyer of forests shall shake his red crest against them;
He, the bright consumer of palaces,
Broad waves he his blazing banner,
Red, wide, and dusky,
Over the strife of the valiant;
His joy is the clashing swords and broken bucklers;
He loves to lick the hissing blood as it bursts warm from the wound!

All must perish!
The sword cleaveth the helmet;
The strong armour is pierced by the lance:
Fire devoureth the dwelling of princes,
Engines break down the fences of battle.
All must perish!
The race of Hengist is gone-
The name of Horsa is no more!
Shrink not then from your doom, sons of the sword!
Let your blades drink blood like wine;
Feast ye in the banquet of slaughter,
By the light of blazing halls!
Strong be your swords while your blood is warm.
And spare neither for pity nor fear,
For vengeance hath but an hour;
Strong hate itself shall expire!
I also must perish.
Aug
13
Andrew

Was there a Dragon banner of the English?

Yes

Was in White, Golden or is there just not enough evidence?

Goldon
Have you any pictures of the dragons used by later British Kings as mentioned
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